Reiner Fuellmich: [00:00:02] Virginie, can you hear us?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:00:06] Yes. Good afternoon. Thank you to all your team for your kind invitation. I’m very grateful to be here with you. And thank you for all your work, your hard work since the beginning of this crisis.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:00:26] It’s our mutual efforts. It’s the connection of all of us that’ll make the difference. I’m absolutely certain about that. Yeah. So what’s going on in France?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:00:37] Yes. I would like to give you an update about the situation in France, because we are in a great big crisis. I’ve prepared something for you to be aware, because it’s very yes. We clearly live under a dictatorship since March 2020. But French citizens are more aware of the situation than ever since July 12th 2021 because of the television presidential address. It became a declaration of war against French people. He [French president Emmanuel Macron] announces a series of measures to counter what he called the resurges resurgence of the Covid-19 epidemic linked to the Delta variant, including in particular, a mandatory vaccination for certain professions like health workers, as well as the extension of the health certificate to new locations to force as many people as possible to be vaccinated. The government started to threaten the health workers in January 2021, some doctors will question the vaccine and will depend on the side effects and accidents are threaten to go before the medical council, are suspended, are forbidden to practice or taken into custody. It’s important to keep in mind that the Covid-19 epidemic pressure rates in France is currently one patient per 100,000 inhabitants, that’s it. An influenza epidemic is reported when there are normally between 150, 300 patients per 100,000 inhabitants. We are far from being in a worrying situation. We can say that nothing is happening. So, in spite of everything, Emmanuel Macron announced its intention to extend the health certificate from July 21 in all leisure and cultural venues that bring together more than 50 people, only 50 people, entertainment and stadiums, casinos, zoos, theme parks, sports facilities, gaming, all cinemas, theatres, etc.. In early August, the health certificate will be extended to cafes, restaurants, shopping malls…
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:03:10] You hear that? Shopping malls, hospitals, retirement homes, medical and social institutions and travel by air, train, bus for long distance trips. The health certificate becomes mandatory for access to hospitals. The surgery operations are canceled when the patient has not already taken the jab even before the vote or publication of the law. The health certificate becomes mandatory for access to these different places from the age of 12 years old. The health certificate will not only concern the public, but also the employees working there. Merchants who do not check the health certificates of their customers could be fined 45,000 euros and imprisoned for one year. Starting this fall, PCR test will be made chargeable unless prescribed by a physician in order to force a forced vaccination. Mandatory vaccination for children is also in the fight for the start of the school year. The Bill of law will be presented to the Council of Ministers on July 19, 2021. We know since March 2020, the president, the government, the parliament members are openly denying our fundamental rights. The situation is becoming very worrying. We try, by all means, to remind our representatives of the rules applicable in a real democracy. We are no longer in a democracy. Our leaders are very zealous and follow orders which are taken against the fundamental interests of our nation. They old, obscure defense counsel during which we know what they receive instruction. They are tracing the agenda, but at the same time they are committing a lot of mistakes. We know very well who is behind all this.
Viviane Fischer: [00:05:28] The health certificate that people need, that’s who you have to be vaccinated or you have to be recovered from Covid or you have to have a test. Is that the 3 options.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:05:43] They’re pushing for vaccinations. Yes.
Viviane Fischer: [00:05:47] So you say the PCR test is is it has been free and is going to be from the follow on it’s going to cost. So people who have little money, they have to be vaccinated because they just can’t afford it.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:06:03] Exactly.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:06:05] Ok, so they’re making many mistakes. One of them is that they’re pushing too hard, right?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:06:11] Yeah. Because mandatory vaccination is forbidden so. In international law and also in the treaties, precedent of the European Court of Human Rights. So, yes, they are threatening the population before they pass the law. They vote the law and I think that, you know, we have a lot of people in the streets. There will be more and more people in the streets because it will be… In this weekend there will be a lot of people that are shouting that it’s simply impossible to go this way.
Viviane Fischer: [00:07:02] Yes, these are the Yellow Vests or is this a new crowd of citizens,
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:07:08] Yellow vests and a new crowd. So even people that already took the jab because they think that health is a private matter. Yes. So they all are together in the street.
Viviane Fischer: [00:07:40] And how many people are there on the streets? Like, is this happening only in Paris or like everywhere around the country?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:07:46] It will be everywhere around the country. Yes.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:07:52] Has it already begun? Are people out there on the streets already?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:07:56] Yeah, yesterday, and it will be more people in the streets on Saturday.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:08:03] What is going on in the courts of law. Are you trying to hold the people who are responsible? Are you trying to hold them accountable in the courts of law?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:08:16] I can give you an update also about the ongoing proceedings in which I am involved, if you want.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:08:24] Yes, please.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:08:26] Yes. On March 18, 2021, I filed an interim summons before the president of the Judicial Court of Paris against the health emergency law. This complaint was filed at the request of 3 associations and 1,360 individuals against the state, prime minister and health minister. The civil suit is currently pending before the Paris Court of Appeal. We denounce the lockdowns and curfew measures unnecessary, disproportionate, harmful to disaster for the psychological and physical health of the population, our culture and for our economy. It’s also a scientific nonsense. More than twenty five studies demonstrate this. We have filed a priority preliminary ruling on constitutionality so that the Supreme Civil Supreme Court can take up the matter and transmit this question to the Constitutional Council. Since the lockdowns are unconstitutional, a mandatory stay at home for an entire population is arbitrary detention. We denounce the artificial tests that are not really reliable and only a tool to justify the measures restricting our freedoms. As you know very, very well. I’m aware of this as I heard you a long time ago! Now we denounce the lack of organized care as treatments available since the beginning. We denounced the organization of the euthanasia for the eldest. To summarize, we denounce all the inconsistencies and the maintenance of the state of health emergency when the criteria are not met. There’s another legal actions before the general court of the European Union since June 17 2021. I also represent 232 French healthcare workers who wish to intervene in the legal actions initiated before the general court of the European Union by the Italian attorney Renate Holzeisen, who you know very well, to defend the rights of health workers in Northern Italy and Austria. I managed all these professionals in a short period of time, thanks to United Health Professionals, ReInfoCovid, Children Health Defense Europe,The Independent Scientist Council and the National League for Freedom of Vaccination. So Renate Holzeisen is challenging the licenses granted by the European Commission in December 21, 2020 implementing decision for the use of the Covid so-called vaccine in the European Union and the last one, complaints before the President of the French Broadcasting Authority on July 12, 2021. I also filed a complaint before the president of the French Broadcasting Authority against a journalists on behalf of the National League for Freedom of Vaccination. This journalist [Emmanuel Lechypre on BFMTV] said on TV “they will vaccinate you by force. I will have two policemen take you to the vaccination center.You have to go after them with your teeth and with handcuffs if necessary. The non-vaccinated are public dangerous. So I have a very clear approach. I do everything to make them pariahs of society”. So why this complain? For about two weeks now, we have been witnessing a wave of verbal violence in media against people who do not want to be vaccinated. Many people in the media are currently making violent, threatening comments against people who do not want to take the job without any restraint and no one is sanctioning these inhumain comments. Yesterday, again, the physician, well known for his conflicts of interest and which does not take care of patients, said in the media today: “There is a war. This war is against the antivax. I see it clearly. These are people who have no scruples. We use the worst methods. We do extreme all over the world. This is our real collective enemy is not the virus anymore because the virus, we can fight it. It’s the influence of the antivax”. These remarks constitute a violation of human dignity & freedom of others and a breach of public order by publicly inciting hatred, violence, discrimination of a new kind against French people who refuse to participate in a mass experimentation conducted by Big Pharma with the encouragement of a World Health Organization and the blessing of French leaders.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:14:12] So according to law applicable in such circumstances, we enjoy the president of French broadcasting authority to refer the matter to the public prosecutor. We have attached to this complaint a memo concerning free and informed consent for any medical act, as well as the issues related to experimental injection so that the media are globally aware of the consequences of their failure and their criminal responsibility. This is clearly propaganda and continuous lies, lies since March 2020 and the impact on the public is catastrophic. So we ask all the journalists of the big media to respect the code of ethics for journalists. The Charter of Munich says to never confuse the profession of journalism with that of advertiser or propagandist. Never accept any direct or indirect instruction from advertisers. To carry out the investigation that are essential to deliver objective and clear information. They are now being warned. In fact, I wrote a report entitled “Dictatorship 2020”, in November 2020, which has been public and downloadable for many months. And others have also written articles and reports on the subject. No one will be able to say they didn’t know.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:15:50] So I saw the video, is he insane or is he just play acting? I don’t know. But I saw this video. And is this a turning point? Is this getting people to become more skeptical of what’s going on? Is this what’s bringing people out onto the streets?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:16:16] I think that the more they exaggerate, the more they manipulate, the less people will go along with it. I think it’s a mistake because…
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:16:41] Yeah, I think what what happens here and we spoke about this with our American friends, Leslie Manookian, and she’ll be on right after you, by the way. And we spoke with Dr. Simon Gold, who founded American Frontline Doctors. So what is happening worldwide, I believe, and they believe too, is this enormous push, this enormous unmasking of what is really going on there, taking down their masks. They’re showing they’re really ugly faces. They’re telling us: this is not about health. This is about eugenics and genocide. I think that is what finally is turning the table. For some reason, they are under enormous pressure because all the mainstream media propaganda about how people really love to get vaccinated turns out to be a lie. And because it’s a lie, they are under pressure and that’s why they now have to let go of all the formalities, all the nice talk and have to push really hard. And that is what’s really motivating people to get up and fight. It’s long overdue, but they say better late than never.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:17:57] Yes. And I think also that they know that we will hear more and more about civilian deaths and accidents, and that it will be difficult to put a veil on that. And so they really need to push the agenda, to make the more people take the jabs. Yes, I think so. We are gathering more and more resistance people and we are organizing, so they know that. For example, in France there’s a new TV channel, which is opening now. It’s called La Une TV. And it will have an audience. And they know that the beginning of September, we will have a channel. So we all hold together to give all the information we have gathered since the beginning of 2020. So could be these things that explain also why they are rushing an agenda.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:19:29] The name of the channel is La Une TV. Yes. And that is going to be that’s going to give real information, not propaganda.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:19:41] Yes, exactly. Which scientists, physicians, lawyers, journalists and all the resistants that have the information to give to the population.
Viviane Fischer: [00:19:58] Do you think that they’ve just really miscalculated sort of the spirit of the French people? I mean, that they had the feeling, you know, if you tell them, OK, just go after these people that don’t want to get vaccinated, that the French would really be health agents and yes we have to hunt them down and get the vaccine. And so they just absolutely miscalculated this spirit of freedom that’s maybe prevalent in the French mind or what do you think?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:20:29] It’s possible. I feel like a rat in the box and someone is looking to see how I react. And I think that we can feel all like that and they are manipulating us. And threasading to see how we will do in the next weeks. I know also that we have a philosopher in France, who is saying that in 2022, we will have the revolution in France. So it’s not predicted. It’s organized. You know, Attali, you know who I mean?
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:21:19] Yeah, yeah, yes.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:21:21] A lot of people say, well, he predicts everything, but no, it’s not that. He knows a lot of things. So he wrote about that. He said in France, we will have a revolution in 2022. And I’m wondering if they are not putting pressure on the French population to have a revolution, an appartheid between vaccinated and not vaccinated and push ones against the others.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:21:56] Is this Jacques Attali?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:21:58] Yes it is.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:22:00] Oh bad news. This guy is very bad news. Yes. So you’re not going to allow this to happen. You’re going to organize this so that these people can be put back into their little rabbit holes through an organized movement, right?
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:22:18] Yes. We will fight together. I would like to say that I join Police for Freedom. You know this collective of police officers that are informing their colleagues on the ground. And I think that we need to join hands with the police officers because,
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:22:38] Yes, very important. They have to understand that if they do what they’re supposed to do, they’re not safe. No one is safe. They’re all going to be thrown under the bus as soon as they’ve done what they’re supposed to do.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:22:52] Yes. And I think in international level we need to join hands with police officers.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:23:00] Yes, we think the same here. It Makes a lot of sense. I think it’s universally true that has to be done. We all have to join forces with our own police forces because most of them are not bad. They’re just being used right now. We think.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:23:17] Yes they are exactly like the rest of the people or they don’t know. We need to inform. And there’s a lot of police officers that are aware of the danger and the thing that are not right, so they follow our legal work on the Corona committee and all the lawyers, attorneys that are fighting against these liberticide measures. So it’s a way to fight.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:23:58] Yes, it’s the only way. We have to fight. Yes. It’s time to actually tell the people what’s really going on. It’s time to expose what they are doing that this has nothing to do with health. It’s all destruction and death.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:24:14] Perhaps I will say something touchy here right now. There’s a lawyer in France which is saying that perhaps there’s a problem with this Council of Defense because they are certainly members of staying behind group of NATO that are giving orders.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:24:42] Uh huh. So that’s is new. I mean, it is not a complete surprise. It does sound plausible. It’s quite possible. We’ve known for a long time that their so-called secret armies, both here in Europe and also in the United States and other places as well. So it’s quite possible that this is being done through NATO because we realize, of course, that NATO is another one of these NGOs that we have to get rid of. We don’t need them anymore. We will get rid of them as soon as we’re in charge. Yeah, OK, Virginie, thank you so much.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:25:22] Thank you very much. Thank you.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:25:28] I wish you have very happy weekend despite all what’s going on Virginie.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:25:42] Thank you. I think I won’t be alone. There will be a lot, a lot of people in the streets.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:25:50] Excellent. That’s what we need. Yes. We have to do this together. This is why we have to unite.
Virginie de Araujo Recchia: [00:25:58] Ok, we need to show that we don’t agree with that.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:26:04] Absolutely.
George Wentz: [00:26:05] We have to show who is the rats!
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:26:06] And drive them back into their rabit holds. Nothing against rats by the way. Nice animals, intelligent animals, completely unlike the ones who we’re dealing with. OK. Leslie, can you hear us or is George with us. How are you doing?
Leslie Manookian: [00:26:30] We’re both here perfidies.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:26:32] Did you hear?
George Wentz: [00:26:38] Guten Morgen
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:26:39] Good morning. Did you hear what she’s telling us? Yes, it’s on the one hand frustrating, but on the other hand, there seems to be… We seem to be moving in the right direction right now, the tide seems to be beginning or it is turning, isn’t it?
George Wentz: [00:27:13] I think that the bad guys are so bold right now and they’ve come out of the shadows and they’re just saying it. Yesterday, we have the announcement that the White House would dictate all of the social media parameters for any information with regard to vaccines, coronavirus, et cetera. So before this, it was difficult for attorneys such as myself to make the case that big tech was indeed, in fact an arm of the government as we knew it was, and they kept trying to hide behind this private screen saying, oh, we’re just a private entity and therefore we can invite into our home whoever we want to invite and we can exclude from our home whoever we want to exclude. But yesterday, the White House dictated and the surgeon general issued a very detailed order on misinformation, the Biden administration’s new favorite word. So as these things become more overt, I believe it’s easier for us to convince the public that they’re just absolutely being screwed and we are being lied to in so many different ways. And there’s you know, there’s this old saying that I use that is I use it with juries all the time. Once the clock strikes 13, you must question one through 12. And at some point the lies add up and the tide shifts. Another way that we say it in the United States is “jumping the shark”. It’s something that is so outrageous that it just doesn’t add up. It doesn’t make sense. And then every other thing becomes subject to questioning. And these guys are so bold at this point that the lies are going to get them, I hope. And that’s what Leslie and I have been working on, is exposing some of these things through what we hope to be well fashioned lawsuits.
Leslie Manookian: [00:29:39] So if I think I didn’t hear everything that Virginie said, but it sounded like, you know, I have been following what’s happening in France and there’s so much going on with respect to people standing up finally. And it sounds like maybe you’re going to try to organize that if I understood your whole thing. But I think that’s interesting. And then if you look at what’s been happening in the US, I know where George and I both live, although it opposite ends of the state, they just announced a week ago, a little over a week ago that hospitals did, that they are going to force their employees to be vaccinated by somewhere between September 1st and September 21st with the dates. And this is very important because Idaho is a very conservative state for the most part. There are a few pockets of very liberal areas, but for the most part, it’s a conservative state and a good chunk of the health care workers are very opposed to being forced to take the shot in order to retain their jobs. And so there was a press conference by the lieutenant governor yesterday morning who is running for governor. And there are going to be several rallies this weekend and other days of all of these health care workers who are opposed. And there’s huge pressure. The lieutenant governor spoke about what a violation of human rights, any kind of forced medical treatment is. And my point is that, you see these uprisings. It has been fairly quiet, but now you’ve got the health care workers, the front line workers who are actually rallying and protesting, and many of them are prepared to lose their jobs. They are not going to take it. That’s going to put the hospitals in very, very interesting position if they lose 20 or 30 percent of their staff. So I’m not sure what the numbers are, but it’s a big deal. And then certainly back in what George said about the the White House, this just in the last couple of days has come out as well, that they are going to now intervene on your cell phone and censor your texts. If you text to your mother or your brother or your friend what they deem to be vaccine misinformation, they will block the text. This is so intrusive and so absurd, right. That anybody can see what it really is. But let’s call it what it is: tyranny, full blown tyranny.
George Wentz: [00:32:17] Is the institution of the Chinese Communist Party’s social credit system, right? Where they monitor everything you do, everything you spend. This is what’s happening. And they want that globally and they’re instituting it here in the United States. And we’re just watching it happen. And we’re trying to bite around the edges and challenge but it’s so difficult to you know, there’s so many things happening simultaneously, all of which are contrary to every precept of what America stood for during my entire life. I’m sixty three. And so the idea that, you know, we are self governed, the idea that in our founding documents, which we hold so dear, that we are endowed with certain unalienable rights by our Creator, whatever the Creator is endowed us with these unalienable rights so that the idea is that the rights of the government come from the people to the government. But this is all been flipped on its head now and what we’re establishing is a technocratic, autocratic rule whereby the people who are considered to be too stupid to actually govern themselves are engaged in misinformation. The lab leak theory was misinformation. We all knew that Trump saying that he was being spied on by the Obama administration was misinformation. All of these things turn out not to be misinformation. So whoever these things are great as long as you’re the guy making the rules, right. So you know what? I can’t believe that this court, this Supreme Court would allow these things to happen.And that’s why we’re starting to challenge ah, we’re here, I think in part to talk about the lawsuit that we filed against mask mandate. And the reason that we filed that suit is the same exact thing we have. We have a third level technocrat and MD at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issuing a national law that we hear every time we fly. And I’ve been flying a lot and I have to listen to the lie that federal law requires me to wear a mask and that I can be punished under federal law if I don’t. Well, if you look into it, there is no such federal law. And what they are referring to is an emergency order issued by a doctor whose job is to quarantine sick animals that might be entering the United States. This is the statute upon which they rely. So now, as opposed to the people being self governed and the rights of the government coming from the rights of the people who got those from the creator, we now have some doctor telling us that we have to cover up our nose and mouth if we want to engage in the basic right to travel. So this is more than just a mask challenge, it’s more than just the challenge to the mask. It’s a challenge to the way that our entire system of government has been stood on its head, and this is what we’re going to see more and more of if we don’t push back on these things. We were told by many people, don’t do the mask challenge because it will undermine the vaccine challenge. People told the mask is just a minor inconvenience. Well, yeah, the mask is training us. The mask is turning us into sheeps. The mask is making us obedient. Every time I fly, I convince myself that I have had a lobotomy before I go and I just tell myself I am a cow, I am a cow because I have to allow my brain to engage, I’m going to have major problems at the airport and I will not get where I must go in order to do what I do. So I just knew a lot. And I occasionally and I get in line and I do whatever they tell me and they all think I’m a really just stupid old man because I have, right? But I hate it. I absolutely hate it. I despise it with every fiber of my being. And so this lawsuit is one way to try to get the Supreme Court to look at this and kind of a third level technocrat actually make a law that governs every single citizen of the United States. We hope not. Certainly there is no precedent.
Leslie Manookian: [00:37:24] Let me jump in there, too, so for people for our European viewers. In the United States, Congress makes laws. The executive branch is not allowed to make laws. And so this is one of our our issues with it. And the idea that the president can just decide, well, I want to do something and then instructs a federal agency to do something, contradicts everything about the way the US was built and constructed, our Constitution and all of our our norms. And so that’s one of our big issues. And the thing is, I think we all have to understand that I’ve said this to many people when they said Is the mask they know you want to die on. Of course, it’s not that I want to die on. But if people had stood over a year ago when the mask mandates were first implemented, we wouldn’t be facing forced vaccination today. It is the end of the wedge. That’s the problem. And these things, you know, we are on a slippery slope. Every single directive that we comply, with gives power to the other side. Every person who doesn’t want the shot and goes and gets it for convenience or to keep their job is giving power to the other side. And the truth is that at some point, I mean, we have thousands and thousands of people who have reached out to my non-profit Health Freedom Defense Fund, and I don’t know how it was explained but George, our general counsel, and his law firm, Davillier Law Group is our law firm with which we work. And every time somebody complies or goes along with this, they are giving power tyrants who are trying to tell the world that you can’t live normally, you must lock down, you must mask. And let’s be honest, a mask isn’t just a mask. I said this in the in an article that was quote it was run in the Times a couple of days ago. Your face is the avatar we present to the world. It is how we interact in our communities and in society at large. It’s how our children and we discern whether or not someone it’s safe to interact with or dangerous, whether they’re happy or angry. Right. Is such an important thing. It’s not a minor detail. And if we are faceless, we are nothing more than an animal. It is insane that people are going along with this. I just saw the data point out of Britain the other day that 40 percent of the people want masks to remain permanently. It probably is a lie. Right. But I think there is a serious portion of people who do want to retain and who are afraid. And my point is they have been so comprehensively brainwashed into a place of terror by the fear form that has been running 24/7 in the media for the last 18 months, that they’ll do anything at this point. They are literally sexless and this mask lawsuit is a huge issue on so many ways, why? Because of the legality of it, but two because of the symbolism of.
George Wentz: [00:40:57] You know the mask, the mask what it does is it teaches every person that your fellow human is a vessel of lethal disease. And so if we want to, in the old days when two armies were fighting with one another, it was divide and conquer. What the mask does is it atomizers the opposition. So we have the state wanting total control. The people would rise up. They would need to associate with one another. Virginie, what you’re saying going on in France, just imagine if no one could associate. Right. You couldn’t organize. So if we teach people that you can’t get very near a person, you must stay six feet away from a person. You cannot talk to a person. You can’t get close to a person. Then there’s no opposition capable whatsoever because they now believe that they cannot associate. And if you can’t associate, you can’t organize. This is the CIA’s message behind this mask mandate and it’s an op. I mean, it’s a psychological operation. And this is the psychological message behind it is whatever you do, don’t trust the fellow human. You might die
Wolfgang Wodarg: [00:42:22] Except in football masters championship.
George Wentz: [00:42:27] Yeah, exactly.
George Wentz: [00:42:29] Completely different laws. It doesn’t it is not valid when you play football. Sorry to interrupting.
Leslie Manookian: [00:42:34] It’s also not valid when politicians get on airplanes. A group of Democrats from Texas are opposing voter registration laws or some kind of voter I.D. laws. And so they got us. They fled the state, but they all got one plane and then they suddenly took selfies themselves, which I don’t know how many of them were. Twenty some of them on this airplane all unmasked. So they’re running all over on Telegram and elsewhere.
Wolfgang Wodarg: [00:43:21] We have to make them comedy figures.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:43:28] I mean, these people are not just acting outrageously, they’re also acting stupidly. But that’s what I thought all along. Those those puppets that they’re using, most of them are really not much more advanced, I guess brain wise.
George Wentz: [00:43:46] These are useful idiots. You know, they’re the useful and the useful idiots are usually idiots. And so they do these things and it comes out and it does ridicule. Wolfgang, I agree with you is a wonderful tool. You know, it’s highlighting the hypocrisy of the other side.
Wolfgang Wodarg: [00:44:09] How can we manage that? We don’t we don’t have the the people voting for such idiots the next election.
George Wentz: [00:44:17] Well, you know, one of the things is to is to allow freedom of speech again and freedom of expression. And that makes it very, very difficult because they control the media. They control big tech, they control Facebook, they control Google, they control the algorithms. They control all of these things.
George Wentz: [00:44:38] Yeah, it’s very good that France is going to have a new you television channel. I think this is a big victory. And I think we should try to find out how to get one in Germany, how to get one elsewhere.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:44:51] Working on that. We have one. Yeah, we have one. Actually, it’ll come out soon.
Viviane Fischer: [00:44:56] But Leslie and George, can I ask you, why do you think they deem it necessary to really go for the private text messages? I mean, this smells of fear, don’t you think?
Leslie Manookian: [00:45:09] Absolutely, Vivienne. I think that there’s no doubt that there is fear. I think it’s look to FDA. FDA has not granted license to any of these shots yet. I thought it would happen before the end of June and it hasn’t happened. Why not? I think it hasn’t happened because they are very afraid, because there’s so much negative information, so many thousands of people die, so many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have been injured and they are not able to completely manage the narrative. And so they are struggling to do it on. In public, on the tech platforms, you know, on the public, Facebook, Twitter and things like this, they’re trying that people are human ingenuity is circumventing them with new TV channels and new video platforms like Brand New Tube, Bitchute and all these things. So we’re bypassing them and we’re doing it through Signal and through Telegram and these other things. And they know that they’ve got to stop us sharing. It’s what George was talking about, keeping us divided. They’ve got to stop it. And so they’re loosing the battle on an individual basis, one to one. And so I think that you’re right that desperate people do desperate things. This is an act of desperation, but it’s also terrifying. And it’s something that we can use to wake people up because those people, like in Britain who say that they still want the mask and the people I mean, I see a video just the other day as someone who is like a street journalist, going around talking to people who are wearing masks and they ask them to wear a mask with no mask requirement. Why are you doing that? Well, I just want to be safe now and keep other people safe. Are you vaccinated? Yeah, I got the shot. Well, if you want the shot, then what are you wearing? Well, not really for me, I do it for other, but if you have a shot, it protects you and other people, and then you would encourage them to actually take off the mask. And the point is that these people… They literally have been mind controled into this position where there’s cognitive dissonance, right, there’s a disconnect between what’s logical and what they’re actually doing. And so I think that these extreme intrusions into our life, these really egregious violation of the basic tenets of freedom, are something that are powerful enough to bypass that cognitive dissonance, that train is in the brain and we should be using them. And also, humor is another great way. I think we just have to keep trying. And the thing is, what what people are doing is resorting to texting. I mean, I have tons of group text chats, you know, that where people share information and these people know that because they shut it down in public so people are going private. So, yeah, I think it is an act of desperation. I think it really shows how right they are. And, you know, there’ve been protests in Ireland, France, Britain, whereas maybe Spain just in the last week,
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:48:28] Greece, France, everywhere. Except we don’t see it because they don’t show it, because the mainstream media are completely under control of these monsters.
Leslie Manookian: [00:48:40] So what we need to do is actually start a giant text chamber to get this right. What if we had maybe that’s something that the Corona committee should do, is create a Text List of all people who want to be on there and text news items and things like that all over the world. What about that idea that they’re shutting it down for a reason? That’s because it’s a thorn in their side.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:49:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. So this was filed only three days ago, right?
George Wentz: [00:49:14] The lawsuit, yes. By the way, Your Honor, I followed that very closely. And you did a great job!
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:49:20] Thank you, George. (…/…) This is what Wolfgang is stressing right now here in Germany. Most of the hospitals are public hospitals. They’re owned and operated by the communities or by the state and
George Wentz: [00:49:41] By the churches,
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:49:44] Some of them are operated by churches. Yes. So I guess parochial hospitals, you might want to call them, but Wolfgang is afraid that what’s currently happening, this push to get people to vaccinate, to get health care workers to vaccinate, which is driving them out of their jobs, because many just like in Idaho, many people are simply not going to go along with this. So they’re not going to wait until they get fired, but they’re going to go there. They’re just going to leave. So he’s afraid that what’s going to happen is that this is going to make it easier here in Germany, at least easier for the state to close even more hospitals so that eventually this whole thing is privatized and then we’re finally going to get rid of the doctors, et cetera, et cetera, and we’re going to have digitalized medicine. I know it’s a little bit different in the United States because most of the hospitals there are privately owned anyway.
Leslie Manookian: [00:50:47] But that’s privately owned. But the problem is centralization, right? Yes. Federal problem. They may be privately owned, but they’re owned by giant corporations.
George Wentz: [00:51:04] Well, they’re centralized and controlled by the FDA, the CDC.
Leslie Manookian: [00:51:08] And insurance. Basically means to me the real solution here is to go back to community run, that really the whole problem in our world today is that a few have too much power. It’s the centralization of power that is the problem. And those who are in power are right now doing everything they can to create dependency of the masses upon them. So whether it’s health care, they want the dependency, big pharma, they want the dependency digitalised currency. They want the dependency in the track. Right. Every single effort that we see is the exact opposite of everything that was framed in the Constitution of the United States, which was to decentralize and diffuse power. There are thousands and thousands of counties in our country. Right. And then there are 50 different states. This should give us so many different flavors of self governance as long as it’s local and close to the people. But this is the problem the elites cannot control that system. So over the course of ever since that was set up, they have been trying to federalize it and federalize it and federalize it so that it’s more and more concentrated. And that way, the elites, starting with JP Morgan way and back and all the big guys. Right. They can control the politicians. And if you concentrate all that power into Washington, D.C., then that magic ring that has all the power can be easily obtained will be here.
Leslie Manookian: [00:52:57] Sorry. And there’s another really important piece of it. It’s not just political, right? So I worked on Wall Street, as Reiner explained, and I remember back in the 80s and early 1990s when I was working in investments. And it was a really important question when someone went to corporations announced a merger or a takeover. Will the Federal Trade Commission approve it and all megamergers request? Is it legal, doesn’t violate antitrust laws that have been in place for. 80 years, about 70 years at that point, and what’s happened is for the last 30 years, those antitrust laws have been repealed and overrun. And so now what we see is that all the media in the United States is held in the hands of six corporations that used to be illegal. We used to have something called the Fairness Doctrine in America, which prohibited any company that owned one media asset in one market, say Chicago, for having one in an adjacent market. And you could own newspapers everywhere. You couldn’t own television stations everywhere. So there were all of these blocks to it. And so my point is that there’s this huge you’ve got the political consolidation. You’ve also got the corporate consolidation. And it is the marriage of the two of those, that is facilitating the tyranny that we see today.
George Wentz: [00:54:28] I have to leave because I have another call at the top of the hour that I have to get ready for and get up for pleasure to meet everyone. Thank you so much.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:54:39] Thank you for your work. We’ll be in touch, George.
George Wentz: [00:54:43] OK Reiner. Great to see you all. Great to meet everyone. Thank you again.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:54:46] Same here.
Leslie Manookian: [00:54:49] We can’t let someone else solve our problems because the more power you give away, the more power someone else has to use that power against you. Right.
Wolfgang Wodarg: [00:55:02] And it’s a very, very well-known principle of subsidiarity.
Leslie Manookian: [00:55:07] Yes. So from from my perspective, the last thing I want is the state to be involved with basically anything. I think the state should do one thing and one thing only, and that is to protect our rights. That’s what it was established once. And I think we need to get back to that. And I know that’s probably very uncomfortable for somebody. I lived in London for 10 years and in Germany for one almost one year. And I know that’s not a popular viewpoint over there. But I think that what we’re seeing right now is the results of what’s been going on for a very long time, which is that the state has been a massive power and the state in concert with corporations is now using that against us to control us. And so we have to be very careful that we never get back to that place again. We’ve got to reclaim our rights. And I think the way that we do that is by creating our own currencies locally, our own markets, our own food systems, everything.
Wolfgang Wodarg: [00:56:16] Well, it’s our money. It’s all paid from our money.
Leslie Manookian: [00:56:22] Yeah, exactly. Think about this. My taxpayer dollars went to funding, Moderna vaccine and now it’s being forced on people that don’t want it. How outrageous is that? And so we’ve got to push back against this unbelievable, illegal, unethical and inhumane power grab that exists today in the world. It’s people have to rise up. And this is something I think is so important for all of our listeners. Those of us here involved in this. Those of us fighting our legal fight, we can’t do it alone. We don’t have enough lawyers. We don’t have enough people. We need each and every one of you who is listening to stand up and be counted, stand up and say no, stand up and refuse. You have to because we can’t do it by ourselves. And every single person that stands up and says, no, empower someone else to do the same thing. It is so important that you not think we’ve got it all in here and everything’s OK because Reiner and Wolfgang and everybody else, Vivianne and you know that we’re all fighting, Virginie in France, that we’re all doing it. We need everyone, everyone to get involved because we can’t do it without you and your numbers.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:57:43] That’s powerful. It’s empowering. And I think it’ll work because it’s working already. That’s why that’s why we see this outrageous behavior. And we don’t have to because it was I’m not going to say it’s a waste of time, but it took us a lot of time to argue and to understand that the PCR test doesn’t do the trick, at least not according to. It’s a great tool, of course, caramelised the inventor. He deserved the Nobel Prize, but it is not good for detecting infections. But that took us so long. In the meantime, however, there is no question that this is not about health. This is about genocide. This is about eugenics. And that’s why we all have to stand up, because sooner or later they’re going to go after each and every one of us if we do not show them the red stop sign.
Leslie Manookian: [00:58:38] And we can’t do it without the support of everyone. We need people to show up. We need their bodies that we need them to show up. We need them to donate to our causes. We need them to do anything and everything they can. And we also need them to show what freedom looks like to their fellow humans, right?
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:58:59] Yeah. They have to see what some of them may have forgotten, at least those 40 percent, if it’s 40 percent in Great Britain who think masks forever is a good idea. They have to see what they have forgotten, that this is about humanity. It’s about human activities. It’s about song and dance and hugging and singing. That’s what this is about. This is about life and they’re about death. They have nothing but death to offer
Leslie Manookian: [00:59:32] Death and depression. Isolation. Yeah. You know, it’s so bleak.
Reiner Fuellmich: [00:59:38] Yeah. Oh, man. But on that note, I think we can go off into the weekend.
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